They're starting to get annoying now...

[jadehill2001]

Jan 7, 2011 17:10:21 GMT munchkinsdonut said:

edward would likely to be the first one who would call the shot them having a separate lives.

You're talking about someone who couldn't be in another bedroom here.

I think John would be the first tbh

[Taffy-Kat]

Jan 7, 2011 19:33:45 GMT jadehill2001 said:

Jan 7, 2011 17:10:21 GMT munchkinsdonut said:

edward would likely to be the first one who would call the shot them having a separate lives.

You're talking about someone who couldn't be in another bedroom here.

I think John would be the first tbh

lol yeah i would agree with that!
couldnt see either wanting to be a part properly for a while yet, but think john would def be the more willing one

[stranger]

Hi guys, just wanted to add my opinion on this.

People look for relationships to find that missing piece of their lives, their soul mate, their "other half" so to speak. They look for the person who can compliment them, complete them, someone to feel totally at ease with. They look for that one person that understands them and knows them so well that there aren't any secrets between them.

John and Edward are so lucky because people spent their whole lives looking for that person, but they were born with each other. I don't think any romantic relationship can ever be as fulfilling and incredible as what they are to each other. They don't NEED to find a serious relationship like most other people do. And as dim as the public may think the twins are, I recall Edward saying something to this effect in the past. He mentioned that people look for that bond, but they don't need to. He's a smart boy.

And I also think there's a slight jealousy that some people feel when watching their interaction. Maybe we think its so unusual becuase we're not used to such a good relationship with our own siblings. Can you imagine NEVER feeling lonely and ALWAYS having someone there for you? Who wouldn't want that? All the times we've felt alone and isolated, as if no one understands, having to keep our thoughts to ourselves?

I think the boys should stay together as long as they want, and their future decisions about separate lives rests solely with them. They shouldn't be influenced by anything fans say or anyone else says. Maybe they'd be miserable apart? They should do what feels right.

Now, about Edward's annoyances lol, let's not forget that Jedward Let Loose was a TV programme, which means a lot of the scenes were probably staged in part. For example, the phone call ordering sushi. Imagine watching that scene with just John making the call. The producers probably wanted them to be as annoying as possible for the viewers' interest. So we can't really know how annoying they are in reality.

Also, has anyone noticed how different Edward is from 2009? For example, that judging competition for Blastbeat, he was so articulate and confident, talking about "undercurrent of the same monologue". And all through the X factor, he was much more in command of the situation and mature than John was. So maybe his "new" femininity is somewhat an image?

What do you think?

All I know is John loves and needs Edward as much as Edward loves and needs John.

[tashiiheartsu]

It's pretty weird, because with my brother, we spent all our time in the same house, but we never talked with eachother unless it was arguing :'D And when we were seperated for a few weeks I didn't miss him AT ALL. My mum always says ''when you're older you will appreciate eachother because you wont be under eachother's feet.''. With twins it must be completely different. John and Edward spent practically 24 hours in eachother's company, but they never seem to get tired of it They are like two peices of a puzzle, which leaves no room for anything to argue about. I know that deep down, everyone wishes they had a twin. Because you can do everything together. I hardly do anything on my own because it's just no fun...but if I had a twin then there'd always be something to do. John and Edward must realise how lucky they are to have eachother I hope they never take it for granted

[Taffy-Kat]

Jan 8, 2011 13:55:09 GMT stranger said:

Hi guys, just wanted to add my opinion on this.

People look for relationships to find that missing piece of their lives, their soul mate, their "other half" so to speak. They look for the person who can compliment them, complete them, someone to feel totally at ease with. They look for that one person that understands them and knows them so well that there aren't any secrets between them.

John and Edward are so lucky because people spent their whole lives looking for that person, but they were born with each other. I don't think any romantic relationship can ever be as fulfilling and incredible as what they are to each other. They don't NEED to find a serious relationship like most other people do. And as dim as the public may think the twins are, I recall Edward saying something to this effect in the past. He mentioned that people look for that bond, but they don't need to. He's a smart boy.

And I also think there's a slight jealousy that some people feel when watching their interaction. Maybe we think its so unusual becuase we're not used to such a good relationship with our own siblings. Can you imagine NEVER feeling lonely and ALWAYS having someone there for you? Who wouldn't want that? All the times we've felt alone and isolated, as if no one understands, having to keep our thoughts to ourselves?

I think the boys should stay together as long as they want, and their future decisions about separate lives rests solely with them. They shouldn't be influenced by anything fans say or anyone else says. Maybe they'd be miserable apart? They should do what feels right.

Now, about Edward's annoyances lol, let's not forget that Jedward Let Loose was a TV programme, which means a lot of the scenes were probably staged in part. For example, the phone call ordering sushi. Imagine watching that scene with just John making the call. The producers probably wanted them to be as annoying as possible for the viewers' interest. So we can't really know how annoying they are in reality.

Also, has anyone noticed how different Edward is from 2009? For example, that judging competition for Blastbeat, he was so articulate and confident, talking about "undercurrent of the same monologue". And all through the X factor, he was much more in command of the situation and mature than John was. So maybe his "new" femininity is somewhat an image?

What do you think?

All I know is John loves and needs Edward as much as Edward loves and needs John.

agree with all of this ^

think parts of let loose was definitely stage what 'reality' tv show these days isint to some extent

[munchkinsdonut]

Jan 7, 2011 19:33:45 GMT jadehill2001 said:

Jan 7, 2011 17:10:21 GMT munchkinsdonut said:

edward would likely to be the first one who would call the shot them having a separate lives.

You're talking about someone who couldn't be in another bedroom here.

I think John would be the first tbh

yeah thats why i think its edward - john can go solo but he wouldnt until edward is ready. so when edward is ready - he will call the shot to live separately thats the only time john can move on without worrying edward will move next door . i am supposed to make sense here

how easy for edward to convince john that he wants to go back to his room- ;D

[reptilian222]

You're talking about someone who couldn't be in another bedroom here.

I think John would be the first tbh

John would do just fine with out Edward but would Edward do fine with out John?

I don't think any romantic relationship can ever be as fulfilling and incredible as what they are to each other. They don't NEED to find a serious relationship like most other people do. And as dim as the public may think the twins are, I recall Edward saying something to this effect in the past. He mentioned that people look for that bond, but they don't need to. He's a smart boy.

Nah, there's something called being in love isn't there Unless they both love each other so much aka have romantic feelings for each other, they should be interested in having a love life of some sort. Still they could refuse it, if they really wanna stay together.

Let's face it, if John got a girlfriend, it would pretty much ruin their relationship. They would still have contact but a girl/guy would pretty much break them apart as it would result in them not being 24 hours together. Would anyone be a boyfriend/girlfriend to a person who's twin is always there?

I think John would work 100% in life with out Edward but Edward would kinda be miserable/lost with out John.

So maybe his "new" femininity is somewhat an image?

Edward acts like a woman. I don't think it's an act or an image. The way he talks, his behavior, his expressions, the way he moves sometimes, when he ever bring up Britney...also he was clearly camp at X-Factor.

If you look at John who's more of a masculine guy and then at Edward who's more of a feminine, girly guy, you see a big difference. But that's who they are, that's their character I guess.

[stranger]

Hmm..interesting points just there..

I know what you're saying about being in love, but you don't have to act on your feelings do you? For example, my friend was madly in love with someone, but the parents wouldnt allow it, so they had to move on from each other. Plenty of people fail to form successful romantic relationships in their lives and live alone (or with family). And in the twins' position, they may well be afraid to take that step because it would mean being apart. There's nothing wrong with that.

Also, I don't agree with the idea that John would be fine without Edward, but not the other way. On the surface, Edward is definitely more affectionate towards John and more open about his love (e.g. when he said that he felt so alone in the ambulance without John), but if you actually look closer, you can see that John depends on Edward in the same way, albeit without expressing it as such. He seems very protective and every other sentence starts with "I feel me and E'ard..."

Don't forget he's the one that said that no one would ever come between him and Edward and was the one who stayed in the hospital room with him. Also, remember in the Jonathon Ross interview, he said the one day they were apart was when he went to his aunt's house. I recall his next sentence being "But Edward was calling me during the day, SO IT WAS OK"

That speaks volumes to me. Edward was missing John, but John was missing him just as much. Maybe he's just better at hiding his feelings, whereas Edward is more open.

I think we're judging it from just one angle, the one they allow us to see. We don't know what John thinks inside.

[Taffy-Kat]

Yea i dont think either loves the other/ needs the other any less, theres been loads of moments where johns shown that he cares about edward just as much hes just not as open about it, which is where the differences in their personalities really comes in.

"Edwards my best friend he means everything to me"

and there was a random bit on stage once where john just came out with 'i love you man' in one of the talky bits.

also someone tweeted them once when john was doing a reply session, asking what he would do if edward went missing and he tweeted "id run around looking for him and shouting him, that would be really scary" or something like that

think he needs him just as much just shows that side alot less then edward tends to

[Katerina]

--->Sorry if I’m digressing from the topic here! But like I just wanted to add this...My sister and I are very close... we're are not twins but we have a very close bond. From the beginning We like...grew up sharing a room and played and made up so many cool things and when we moved house we had seperate rooms but she moved her mattress in to my room and now sleeps in there. haha She's younger than me. I feel really lucky to have her and blessed. She's like the person I feel that completely cares for me the most. This is one of the reasons why I like and Respect Edward and John I guess, I've like seen behavour in them that makes me happy cause I can relate and it seems normal...?

Of course there's like...an age difference so I feel that we'll have to face the inevitable and be apart...its pretty scary. Someone said before that what Edward and John are doing now means they can be together 24/7 which wouldn't normally be the case cause they would be going to uni and stuff and it's true. I think that the idea of being apart seems so alien to them..they've never really tried to who knows what it would be like. <---

[munchkinsdonut]

Jan 8, 2011 20:50:38 GMT Katerina said:

--->Sorry if I’m digressing from the topic here! But like I just wanted to add this...My sister and I are very close... we're are not twins but we have a very close bond. From the beginning We like...grew up sharing a room and played and made up so many cool things and when we moved house we had seperate rooms but she moved her mattress in to my room and now sleeps in there. haha She's younger than me. I feel really lucky to have her and blessed. She's like the person I feel that completely cares for me the most. This is one of the reasons why I like and Respect Edward and John I guess, I've like seen behavour in them that makes me happy cause I can relate and it seems normal...?

Of course there's like...an age difference so I feel that we'll have to face the inevitable and be apart...its pretty scary. Someone said before that what Edward and John are doing now means they can be together 24/7 which wouldn't normally be the case cause they would be going to uni and stuff and it's true. I think that the idea of being apart seems so alien to them..they've never really tried to who knows what it would be like. <---

its very refeshing to share your point of view what they are going through is a phase and at 1 point they will decide to try w/o one another that is if they emotionally and mentally prepared but at this rate they are still in a zone where they share a common goal . as edward saying "HIM AND JOHN when TOGETHER IS AN ULTIMATE FORCE"

john is more protective to edward he does not show his affection so openly but when he does ahhh its the sweetest like the "i love you man" in one of their show and even in their album. i believe that they have strong foothold and give importance in family values and close family ties - thats make their relationship so unique. remeber as well thay were premature babies and as twins they have that special bond from the very beginning

[tashiiheartsu]

That question sent in during a reply session was sent by my friend chic898 lolol it gets mentioned alot xDD She's proud of her question LOL And I think Edward is alot more open sometimes. Like when asked a question, he will actually say what he feels. He's even a bit blind to the person's feelings though :'D But I guess that makes them different as twins, and shows they aren't just one person like the haters say. Of course they are similar, but us fans can actually tell the difference xD I hate it sooooo much when people refer to them as 'Jedward' as if they are one person :/ Or when they say ''One of Jedward. Doesn't matter which.'' because it does matter. It's not like that with me and my brother, so why them? xD Or when magazines get them mixed up. Like in a picture it said ''John on the left, Edward on the right.'' and I knew myself that they were wrong. :/ Is it just me or is bugged by that?

[Katerina]

Totally....I dont even refer to them as Jedward unless I'm talking to someone who doesn't really know them.
Its not like I dislike it but I prefer calling them by their names. Cause like thats how everyone knew them from then.
I get annoyed when people dont see them as two people grrrr!

[amathy]

Jan 8, 2011 14:08:56 GMT tashiiheartsu said:

It's pretty weird, because with my brother, we spent all our time in the same house, but we never talked with each other unless it was arguing :'D And when we were seperated for a few weeks I didn't miss him AT ALL. My mum always says ''when you're older you will appreciate eachother because you wont be under eachother's feet.

Offtopic a bit but this applied to me. My brother and I shared rooms as kids and we always fought. Was glad when we got separate rooms. Then he started staying in dorms after 6th grade. After a few years of just seeing him during school breaks, i was like "damn, i'm actually starting to miss him". We hang out a lot these days now that we're adults, to the point where my friends have become his friends and our mom assumes i'd know where he is or he knows where i am when we, or even if just one of us steps out.

[penguin]

i am so sick of people who think it's cool to say they HATE john and edward. i had a conversation with someone at college the other day who was saying over and over that she hated them, then when i asked her why she hated them she couldn't even tell me...who's the immature loser now?!?

anyway sorry rant over